According to some sources, fraud may have played a role.
The Wall Street Journal sets the stage with an example from 2004:
That backing is based on real evidence. In 2004, John Kerry won Wisconsin over George W. Bush by 11,380 votes out of 2.5 million cast. After allegations of fraud surfaced, the Milwaukee police department's Special Investigative Unit conducted a probe. Its February 2008 report found that from 4,600 to 5,300 more votes were counted in Milwaukee than the number of voters recorded as having cast ballots. Absentee ballots were cast by people living elsewhere; ineligible felons not only voted but worked at the polls; transient college students cast improper votes; and homeless voters possibly voted more than once.
Much of the problem resulted from Wisconsin's same-day voter law, which allows anyone to show up at the polls, register and then cast a ballot. ID requirements are minimal. The report found that in 2004 a total of 1,305 "same day" voters were invalid.
Now we look at today, with the I Stand With Walker Facebook page reporting firsthand fraud:
I Stand with Scott Walker
BREAKING VOTER FRAUD: Poll workers conducting registration on election day, voting, then registering again to vote. High school students registering other high school students under 18. When complained, the poll worker said mind your own business.
It appears that this may have been heaviest in the liberal safehaven of Dane County, where Madison is located. Kloppenburg's margin was over 100,000 more than Prosser. During the count last night the county 'accidentally' added 10,000 additional votes to her total before retracting them.
Further in the thread were reports of other shenanigans:
As Vicki McKenna was saying earlier, I find it interesting/troubling that 100% of Milwaukee County was reported on for the Stone/Abele numbers, but not for the Prosser/Kloppenberg numbers. What the heck is the problem?? She had some interesting callers this morning that make you sit and go "HMMMMM!"
For some more background we have the official day-of registering law from the state of Wisconsin:
3. AT THE POLLING PLACE ON ELECTION DAY: If you wish to register to vote at your polling place, you must bring proof that you have lived at your present location for at least 10 days preceding the election. For purposes of voter registration, acceptable forms of proof of residence must include:
1. A current and complete name, including both the given and family name; and
2. A current and complete residential address, including a numbered street address, if any, and the name of a municipality.
Which leaves the situation open for fraud...
And the Dems are refusing to support a bill that voters have to show ID before voting. To show how this could possible cause "irregularities...."
It's not too difficult to cast a ballot if you live in Superior, voters say.
"I just gave her my name and she looked it up and she gave me my slip,” voter Stephanie Mohr said.
And Dems say this is okay because??
"It's not only expensive, it's unnecessary. And, it is the worst thing in the world to do to our democracy," Senator Bob Jauch (D-Poplar) said.
**sigh**
UPDATE 4:21pm
And there is evidence of voter intimidation as well.
Village of Grafton Police were called to the Grafton Town Hall because election officials were concerned that protesters were too close to the polling place and were not following the rules established by Wisconsin's Election Authority or Government Accountability Board (GAB). Two witnesses confirmed that a Police Officer who reported to address the incident apparently refused to deal with the protesters initially. Jessica Schmidt, Grafton Town Clerk, and another witness heard the officer say, "I used to be a conservative but I’m not anymore." Apparently, this behavior was a result of the recent debate over union rights that has consumed Wisconsin. The officer then walked outside and without addressing the issues presented by the protesters and refused to do his job, allowing the intimidation to continue. The officer’s behavior was apparently upsetting enough that an elderly poll worker was shaking immediately following the incident and needed to be calmed down by a nurse that was present at the polling place.
Even worse.
UPDATE 4:37PM:
Evidence of destroyed ballots.
UPDATE 9:48PM
This is not from a reliable source, but comments from the state appear to show significant funny business.
Heard of two different instances of potential voter fraud in action.
First: a friend was at the County Zoo and witnessed the elderly from the Senior Living Center across the street being pushed in their wheelchairs to get on busses. In their hands were pieces of paper. One of the papers blew away, and the name Joanne Kloppenburg was written on it. May not have been fraud, but maybe some of the elderly were senile and being told who to vote for - by having the candidate name written on a slip to refer to.
Secondly, in a Milwaukee neighborhood of a relative, two people came to the door asking who lived there. The woman lived alone, but mentioned the name of her deceased husband. The person on the porch put his name into his palm pilot, thanked her, and left. It dawned on her later what must be going on - getting potential names of voters (whether dead or alive), but too late. The people involved in this activity had gone. No one knows how many names they got to use for voting.
and
In my voting location, the machine was not accepting ballots first thing in the morning, so the guy was throwing them some place behind the machine. What number did my district turn in? The count on the machine that did not include my vote or did they remember to add those ballots later on when the machine was working?
Pretty fishy...
There's also word that the precincts from Milwaukee reported their other races in well before they announced the Supreme Court numbers, as if there was a delay or that people were waiting for something.
UPDATE 11:58est
We had an email from a reader that Facebook was blocking this url from being shared on their site. I tried to upload the article about vote shredding myself...and it turns out that it's true.
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a bloo bloo bloo my candidate didn't win it has to be fraud
ReplyDeleteThanks, SEIU!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure it was fraud. With all the bussed in bullshit in madison last month.
ReplyDeleteThe cops should lose collective bargaining too.
ReplyDeleteJesus Fricking Christ! You are the same people that were telling Dems to "get over it" when Walker won. Get a life and get over it, Prosser lost, not by much, but a loss is a loss.
ReplyDeleteI'm reading and re-reading this and I don't see anything that shows where there was evidence of voter fraud. Supposed fraud in 2004 Presidential election has nothing to do with this election. A mistake that gave Kloppenburg an extra 10,000 votes that was already fixed does nothing to support your argument. All polls not reporting at the same time is nothing new. Following current same-day voter registration laws is the correct thing to do as voter ID is a bunch of crap and is NOT the law. Your "evidence" of voter intimidation and destroying ballots is just a he-said she-said story right now. Please, crawl back into the hole that you came from. PROSSER LOST!
ReplyDeleteYou CONVENIENTLY "forgot" to post what is needed for proof of residence IN ADDITION to the 2 you did list. Pathetic.
ReplyDeletePROOF OF RESIDENCE
The following constitute acceptable Proof-of-Residence if the document contains the information specified above:
A current and valid Wisconsin driver license.
A current and valid Wisconsin identification card.
Any other official identification card or license issued by a Wisconsin governmental body or unit.
Any identification card issued by an employer in the normal course of business and bearing a photo of the card holder, but not including a business card.
A real estate tax bill or receipt for the current year or the year preceding the date of the election.
A residential lease which is effective for a period that includes election day (NOT for first-time voters registering by mail).
A university, college or technical institute fee card (must include photo).
A university, college or technical institute identification card (must include photo).
A gas, electric or telephone service statement (utility bill) for the period commencing not earlier than 90 days before election day.
Bank statement.
Paycheck.
A check or other document issued by a unit of government.
I am Sure Many Liberal Students voted Twice. Once Absentee and Once at their Campus Location.
ReplyDeleteThere is only one Party that does not want voter ID.
THe Party that CHEATS
Just remember, Layoffs of Public Workers will now happen, because Some of them will not pay a small portion of their OWN HEALTH CARE
Oink Oink Oink for the Piggy Me Me Me School teachers
WAAH! WAAH! THEY CHEATED!
ReplyDeleteA loss is a loss only after it is legitimately a loss. If you are so damn confident and cocky that you won by a whopping 204 votes, (I wouldnt be bragging about that btw)then let the process run its course as in the case of all elections this close. If there is no proof of fraud then so be it. You win. I for one have my doubts.
ReplyDelete"Jesus Fricking Christ! You are the same people that were telling Dems to "get over it" when Walker won. Get a life and get over it, Prosser lost, not by much, but a loss is a loss. "
ReplyDeleteProblem is, this race was close enough for Dems and the Unions to cheat. This pretty much proves they most certainly did. Walker won by a wide margin.
If it ain't close Demorats can't cheat. You know they cheated but you're a coward so you won't admit it.
I see a lot of Wah Wahing being thrown in faces of republicans by the Dems but the funny part is it's from the same 4 year old whine asses that want to recall every Republican that voted to support Walker - for doing what they were elected to do in the first place! Take a look in the mirror before you step on that soap box.
ReplyDeleteWhen will the left wing oinkers realize that it's not the right wing big interests that influence close elections.
ReplyDeleteWhen will conservatives realize that the democrats are all about power and it's the union goons with their lies about "representing the middle class" that funnel millions of dollars and hundreds of agitators into elections that they deem strategic. They couldn't even bring themselves to punish the coward fleebaggers.
Did anyone get that Grafton cop's name or shield number? An unprofessional disgrace if true.
It might help your cause if you understood the difference between voter fraud and election fraud.
ReplyDeleteWe need to report this to the authority. I do not consider this vote over until the recall election is over and all cases of fraud have been dealt with. Fraud is inexcusable under any circumstances and should be dealt with promptly. Contact your county clerk if you suspect fraud.
ReplyDeleteIt's not the "right wing big interests that influence close elections" What are you smoking? From the Wisconsin Journal....Outside interests have spent $2.16 million on Supreme Court race ads "liberal Greater Wisconsin Committee was the biggest spender with more than $993,000 on TV ads supporting Kloppenburg....
ReplyDeleteBut...Three conservative groups — Wisconsin Club for Growth, Citizens for a Strong America and Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce — together spent more, an estimated $1.16 million, on ads favoring Prosser and attacking Kloppenburg." Finally, the Brennan Center for Justice reported...Four conservative groups seeking to re-elect Justice Prosser spent a combined $2,216,120. One liberal group seeking to elect challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg spent an estimated $1,365,340.
So right wing big interest influence elections just as much...oh wait..EVEN MORE! You really need to get out more...
your sources for this are another article you wrote, a facebook page that links back here, and something some dude said on a radio show...wow nice work kojak you are really blowin the lid off this whole thing
ReplyDeleteYou clearly seem to forget how the right thinks. "The only moral %action is MY %action".
ReplyDeleteLiberal Parisi won the race to become the next executive in a landslide - by about 70,000 votes. This is clearly a case of voter fraud, since a conserative got destroyed in a Wisconsin election. Those crafty liberals must have each voted numerous times. Also, I can't understand how Prosser, who was supposed to win with 65% of the vote, lost the election. You would think someone so close to The Great Gov. Walker would coast to victory. Those liberals cheated somehow.
ReplyDeleteI realize this is a blog and therefore has its limitations, but...citing anonymous, unverified (and largely unverifiable) comments on the Internet and pretending that serves as evidence of unethical behavior? I mean, seriously...have you ever spent much time in the comments section of most any popular article or Facebook page? There's a significant portion of nutjobs out there.
ReplyDeleteEveryone needs to chill the heck out. Yes, voter fraud needs to be taken seriously. Yes, we want to make sure election results actually reflect the votes cast. Yes, we are going to carefully examine this entire situation over the next week or two before we really know who will be sitting on the Supreme Court. However, running wild speculating with such tenuous evidence does absolutely nothing productive. It actually does a lot of damage.
Could you possibly pack more unnamed sources who report nothing more than suspicion and innuendo, into one blog post ?
ReplyDeleteWhat is really, I mean really , hilarious is how you use this blog post as substantiation for a more recent post on the same topic. Well, I suppose that solves the problem of over-packing a post with rumors, suspicions and innuendo. Just split it into two posts !
The information contained in this blog post is misleading and deceptive to the extreme. Sadly, this is what passes for intellectual honesty on the right.
ReplyDeleteYou people are hilarious! Provisional ballots aren't counted until substantiated. Nice try, crackas!
ReplyDeleteI'll tell you one thing there is evidence of just based on these limited remarks, and that's a typical leftie "talking points memo"
ReplyDeleteROFLMAO
ReplyDeletethe republicans are slipping, they can not longer steal elections.
that means your days are coming to an end.
Just posted this link to my Facebook, but the opening paragraph was NOT what was written here. Check it out.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the goon squad came out to play in an attempt to mess up and (again) try to distract from this very chilling and truthful informative post.
ReplyDeleteThey sound like a bunch of children who may get their candy taken away. I guess that's what a nanny state mentality does to a person. Quite pathetic.
I hope this fraud can be uncovered in all it's UNglory. I pray anyone guilty of committing voter fraud or even being party to it, can be held accountable to the strictest means of the law.
I am so disheartened and tired of the divisive and evil antics of the left. For crying all night, us "worker bees" out here are the one's who have to pay their salaries and benefits and we need a break; why oh why can they not see that? Their behavior makes a person think they're being sent off to a prison camp or some other horrible thing like that.
Keep up the great work- I'll be watching and following. And won't post "anonymous" as I've nothing to be ashamed of. ;) Godspeed.
To all the anonymous "lions" who have posted hateful comments here and on my site: Are you better off today than you were 2 years ago? Are you secure about your job and your future? No?
ReplyDeleteNext time think before you spew out garbage.
Thomas,
ReplyDeleteGreat post. I just recognized some suspicious numbers while looking at the election results. You present far better information here. It is unfortunate that many people who see this information are incapable of processing it coherently. How will they ever learn to take care of themselves? It is very sad.
The Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corp which also owns Fox News.
ReplyDeleteLiberals can't win an election without fraud. Liberals are our nations new organized crime organization.
ReplyDeleteOMG Wisconsin, you have to find a way to beat the Commies. Watching the results from your southern border state. These thugs are in full force and will stop at nothing.
ReplyDeleteTRUTH must PREVAIL in WISCONSIN!!!
ReplyDeleteJudge Prosser do not give Floppingturd and inch of her fraudulent win.
Anonymous posers try and make a mark here just like fraud in the WI Vote.
JAIL THESE BASTARDS!
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Dear Mr. Anonymouse, (misspelling intentional)you certainly have the courage of your convictions. You are a credit to all the other union supprters in the state of Wisconsin, and you are just about what we expect from that group. So you are wasting your time trying to by significant here. Go back to the bathroom wall, I hear you really kill over there.
ReplyDeleteWhen I can tell the person standing to get my ballot that my wife is the last one on the list, and she can say that I am the one right above her, and get a ballot. There is something wrong. That is what happened at my polling place. The poll worker read my name not me not my wife, and we got our ballots no questions asked. Did I vote for myself or did I just pick a name off the list??? You decide.
ReplyDeleteSeems to be a whole lot of "Anonymous" commentators for the fearless left here . . . the same fearless left that can not win an election without cheating. Of course, they also can't make a living without working for the govt on the productive sector's dime. Stand up to these fools, the commies must be defeated.
ReplyDeleteIf you have a story of voter fraud in Wisconsin PLEASE visit our site. We are a new organization determined to end voter fraud once and for all.
ReplyDeletewww.wisconsinvoterfraudproject.com
People, the election results you were watching were media sites -- Associated Press, for example. That is NOT an official site, so its numbers mean nothing. I also saw the error of 10,000 votes, and I also saw AP correct it. It happens in almost every election, because somebody hits the wrong key and then goes back to fix it. Big deal -- look at all the typos in the comments here!
ReplyDeleteAgain, no one was seeing the official state election results website, because there wasn't one for this election. The official counts still are being done, and then they will be certified by the state, and you will see numbers different from what the media sites had, because that's what happens every time in every election.
The comments here just show how many people never paid attention before to how this works and don't know the difference between media sites and official government sites. So that discredits for me everything else claimed here.
Oh, we conservatives have no reason to be suspicious, none at all....."Milwaukee police department's Special ... Its February 2008 report found that from 4600 to 5300 more votes were counted in Milwaukee than the number of voters recorded as having cast ballots...." - And those votes were not thrown out. So, Obama got 4600-5300 votes that were FRAUDULENT. And this still stands today. Make no mistake, we know how the left, and especially public unions operate. "The end justifies the means". I can guarantee you there was fraud in the Wisconsin Supreme Court election, it was generated from the left with the help of public union employees, and it was huge. Funny, the left has so many violations and convictions for voter fraud, think ACORN, while the right, as far as I know, has had few if any. Please get real libs. Pretending you're put out that we even suggest such a thing, because we're sore losers, is hysterical. Number one, we have every reason based on history to be highly suspicious, and number two, the race hasn't been won yet. +240 votes for Kloppenburg, in an election that had over one million voters, can hardly be called a victory.
ReplyDeletesorry, liberal morons. Prosser is now ahead. Better bring in the Union Thugs fast! Oh, wait, there're already here in Madison. And, yes, there definitely was voter fraud, especially in the Isthmus (surprise).
ReplyDeleteAll my patriot friends repeat after me:
ReplyDelete"This is what democracy looks like!"
"This is what democracy looks like!"
"This is what democracy looks like!"
Woot! Woot!
To all the libs who posted here - Ha Ha Prosser Won!! Ha Ha. (Just given back - if you don't like it too bad)
ReplyDeleteYou may now begin your predictable rants of republican voter fraud...
Looks like the AFL-CIO-SEIU-CPUSA-Etc. ran a few busloads short after all!
ReplyDeleteHA!!
Wow, so much hate. I am liberal and many of my friends are, and I have seen no evidence of these despicable characteristics assigned to us as a whole by many of you posters. It really saddens me to think that so many believe we are such monsters.
ReplyDeleteHow did this country get so divided?
anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteWow, so much hate. I am liberal and many of my friends are, and I have seen no evidence of these despicable characteristics assigned to us as a whole by many of you posters. It really saddens me to think that so many believe we are such monsters.
How did this country get so divided?
"anonymous"
Here's your answer:
Find the closest mirror.
Then point straight at it.
You reap what you sow.
Example:
I have been called a racist, in my face (remember who said, Get in their face and argue?), by "progressives" who know nothing about me, and who couldn't care less that one of my great grandmothers was a full blooded Taino indian princess, or that I married a woman that has more African blood in her than Obama does. My crime? I disagreed with Obama's policies and did not vote for him.
With your racist, dictatorial garbage,You and your ilk have turned people who were just political opponents into deadly enemies (Obama himself has referred to us as such).
I know you don't see it. In your eyes, you can do no wrong (read "brainwashing"), however we on the receiving end of your trash do. You ARE monsters. And we will not forgive or forget.
I live in a nothern Wisconsin township and every year that I have gone to vote at the town hall no one has ever asked to see my ID or to prove where I live. My township is mostly retired democrats and union pension collectors or workers. How do I know that my vote is even being counted. When I lived in Milwaukee in the 80's, I had to produce an id every time I voted,whether in was national or local. I have not been asked for 9 years.
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