Vote in our new poll: Ron Paul: Genius or Lunatic?
Last night was a heated debate between Republicans vying for their party's 2012 Presidential nomination. Much of the focus was on Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Michele Bachmann. But that certainly does not mean that one of those three necessarily won the debate.
Of the highlights (and lowlights) of the debate were Herman Cain's trademark quips, Rick Perry and Mitt Romney arguing about immigration and job creation, and (infamously) Ron Paul practically blaming the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 on the victims and the United States.
So, who won the debate? Vote below:
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People aren't capable of objectivity anymore. Newt Gingrich has won both of these debates but we've been so conditioned to 0bama's feminine ways, we now perceive masculine behavior as wrong or bad. What has happened to America?
ReplyDeleteRon Paul is absolutely right. Our enemies clearly stated why they attacked us. It is because we are occupying their countries. Duh. Why do people think it is unAmerican to point this out?
ReplyDeleteYou have to be a complete idiot to think they are attacking us because we are free. Our being free does not threaten them in any way. OUR OCCUPYING THEIR COUNTRIES DOES. HELLO... REALITY CHECK....
Ron paul is the only way of change.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'm going to go ahead and not trust al Qaeda. Mostly because they're a terrorist group that murders civilians, but also because they killed before 9/11 and they don't just kill "occupying" Americans. Can you please explain why they kill Iraqi civilians? Are they occupying their territory too? What about innocent Indian women and children? Them too?
ReplyDeleteIf you are going to take al Qaeda's side on top of already having no knowledge of history, please DO NOT vote in the primary.
Pundit Press has no objection to a real
ReplyDeleteindependent investigation of 9 11
with power of subpoena
^ I have no idea what you are talking about
ReplyDeleteRon Paul is the only candidate advocating Peace and LIberty. People like Santorum are warmongers. You are completely delusional if you think Al Qaeda hates us because we are 'free'. That is the line of thinking equivalent to a 5 year old child.
ReplyDelete@ Anonymous above;
ReplyDeleteSo, you're saying that al Qaeda, who has openly bashed the United States because we offer women the ability to walk around without a burqa, we offer homosexuals equal rights, and because we are not an Islamic Theocracy, DON'T hate us because we allow more freedoms? I know, I know, you're so delusional and refuse to accept "facts" and "logic," but dear God, do you realize how unbelievably stupid you are/sound? Wake up sheep, wake up! You still have a chance!
"Ron Paul practically blaming the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 on the victims and the United States."
ReplyDeleteUgh, yet again, you people need to be educated. Time to stop the stupid straw man arguments. Americans are not American foreign policy. Ron Paul has NEVER blamed the victims of the attacks for the attacks. Ron Paul, along with the 9/11 commission, intelligence reports, and former CIA members, all point to 'blowback' as a cause of terrorist violence. If the foreign POLICY is bad, we need to change it. If the POLICY makes us less safe and incites hatred, we need to change it. The government needs to be called out for its wrongdoings. Do you question detectives when they wonder about the motivation behind a crime? Do you think that detectives are excusing the crime or blaming the victims if they want to know the motivation? Our foreign policy is bad policy. That does NOT equate to saying that American victims of 9/11 are to blame for the violence.
Facts reveal truth but who wants facts/truth? You are 100% correct and so is Ron Paul. Who actually flew into the twin towers and the pentagon? Islamic terrorists from INSIDE the US. Middle Eastern nations did NOT do this dastardly deed illegal resident terrorists did. How is a future attack to be prevented if the borders are not secure, the republic is bandrupt and the citizens have their heads in the sand shouting USA, USA. Ron Paul warns us over and over but no one hears. Read the Monroe Doctrine, read the Constitution, read anything that reports the facts!!!! Do not listen to media (includes "talk radio") tell you who to vote for!!! Collect your own facts and find the truth.
DeleteBlowback, huh? So you're saying that because the United States erred in the past that 3,000 civilians need to die? Awesome. So, should we nuke the UK because they treated us bad 240 years ago? I mean, blowback and all.
ReplyDeleteYou sound like the kind of person who would say, "Well, that woman was dressed provocatively, I guess she deserved to get raped." People as uneducated as you sicken me.
Phil G:
ReplyDeleteThat alone is not enough to motivate and recruit people to their cause. The reason Al Qaeda is so popular is because everyday, Arabs see American Foreign Policy interfering with their daily lives. Do you know WHY Iran hates us so much? Why they stormed our embassy and took our diplomats as hostage during the Carter administration? Because we were in their affairs FIRST when we installed and put into power the Shah, a dictator, in the 50s against the will of the People of Iran!
We have bases and troops in Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and our government is trying to influence the domestic affairs of ALL the Arabic nations in the Middle-East. How would YOU feel if Iraq or Saudi Arabia had bases and troops on the ground in the United States? You would probably grow to really resent their presence because they're on your sovereign land. How would you like it if Iran tried to influence the next presidential election? You probably wouldn't like that much now either, would you?
Here's an idea. How about we mind our own dang business and let them live their lives as they see fit. This nation building does not work and it's costing us trillions upon trillions of dollars. Even the Ex-CIA chief and the 9/11 commission confirmed that 9/11 was as a result of BLOWBACK from American Foreign Policy in the past. Do you think they're insane sheep too?
And here we are, 10 years later, still meddling in the affairs of Middle-Eastern nations, locked in two endless wars. We still haven't learned our lesson yet! As long as we're over there, they'll continue to resent and hate America.
Phil, no one is saying that those people on 9/11 deserved to die. They're simply explaining the motivation for the attacks. No one is trying to say it is rational or justified. Stop creating a straw man.
ReplyDeleteIf the attacks were neither rational or justified, then what's the point of blaming American foreign policy for it? You can't say on one end that our foreign policy caused blowback and 9/11, but then say the attacks weren't justified in the first place. It's self-contradictory. Worse, if our actions caused the blowback (but the blowback wasn't justifiable), how do we know what will set al Qaeda off? If I eat a pork roast at my house, will I suffer unjustified blowback?
ReplyDeleteIf Al-Quaeda hates us for our freedom, then why haven't they turned Amsterdam into dust? Why haven't they attacked Canada? Or Switzerland? Please don't act so ignorant. You really are embarassing yourself.
ReplyDeleteYou Ron Paulian's are dangerously stupid.
ReplyDeleteThank God, he's done after this run. He's an embarrassment to clear thinkers everyone.
Wow, it’s no wondering these countries hate us so much. We really are ignorant to the fact that our government goes around placing dictators and removing dictators as if we own the world. And we go around electing these warmongers thinking it's protecting America. Just so you know, I am a Republican but I can tell the difference between protecting America and serving American Corporatist Interest including those nice big juicy military contracts. At least have the guts to call it what it is. Global Corporatism!
ReplyDeleteRon Paulians are obviously more educated and know more about our candidate than those who can't understand Dr. Pauls logic. FIRST OFF, allow me to apologize on behalf of Ron Paul that he does not dumb down his statements so that the majority of you idiots can understand his logic. SECOND, If any of these news reporters would ask him "what he means" instead of putting words in his mouth and ideas into your so easily brainwashed little minds, you would have much more respect for the man. DO YOUR RESEARCH. If you honest to God are choosing your candidate because you watch the "news", YOU are the uneducated, "dangerously stupid" American.
ReplyDeleteI would like to see every TV, Radio and Print Media in America to report the truth for once about the Democratic Party that they started the Klu Klux Klans whose original targets were the Republicans, both black and white.
ReplyDeleteDemocrats from 1882 to 1964 were the true racists. They lynched 1,297 whites and 3,446 blacks all died at the end of the Klu Klux Klans ropes!
Republicans often led anti-platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. Democrats successfully blocked those bills/their platforms and never did condemn lynchings.
No Democrat voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and to this day, their Party website ignores those decades of Racism 13 Volume Set of Congressional investigations from1872 conclusively and irrefutably documents that fact.
KKK terrorized black Americans through murders, public floggins, relief was granted only if individuals promised not to vote for Republicans Tickets, violation of this oath was punishable by death.
This is the answer why Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a registered Republican and why they killed him and explains why he did not want to be a registered Democrat.
Warning! Voters today should be aware of what their Parties and Candidates stand for. Democrats agenda held an aggressive Pro-Slavery Agenda for generations leading up to the civil war and how that did not die with the Union Victory in the War of Rebellion.
As the South rebuild, votes in Congress consistently revealed a continuing Pro Slavery philosophy on the part of the Democrats. 3 years after Appomattox, the 14th Amendment to U.S. Constitution granting blacks citizenship in the U.S. came before Congress 94% of Republicans endorsed it!
Records of Congress revealed that Not ONE DEMOCRAT in the House or the Senate VOTED FOR THE 14th AMENDAMENT. 3 YEARS AFTER THE CIVIL WAR DEMOCRATS FROM THE NORTH AND SOUTH STILL REFUSING TO RECOGNIZE ANY RIGHTS OF BLACK CITIZENSHIP. Carolina Gov. Wade Hampton @ 1868 Democratic National Convention inserted a clause in the Party Platform declaring the Congress Civil rights laws were "Unconstitutional", revolutionary, and void. Same Convention where Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, 1st Grand Wizard of KKK was honored for his leadership.
In 1868 Congress heard testimony from election worker Robert Flournoy while convassing the State of Mississippi in Support of the 13th and 14th Amendments, he only found ONE Black in a population of 444,000 in the state admitted being Democrat.
Pres. Dwight Eisenhower, Republican deployed the 82nd Airborne Division to Desegregate, Little Rock, Arkansas School's over the resistance of Democrat Gov. Orval Faubus. 3 years later Eisenhower signed GOP's 1960 Civil Rights Act after it survived 5-day, 5 hour filibuster by 18 Senate Democratics and Pres. Lyndon Johnson signed 1964 Civil Rights Act after former Klansman Robert Byrd's 14 hour Filibuster and votes of 22 other Senate Democrats including Tennessee's Al Gore, Sr. failed to scuttle the plan.
Not until Pres. Harry Truman was elected that Democrats began to fight to bring down the final barriers of Race, gender Truman efforts unsuccessful because of his own Democratic Party.
Here is my Canadian perspective, coming from a peaceful country that has always been one of the most-respected country around the world. Why does the USA keep giving millions of dollars plus weapons to shitty leaders overseas (Bin Laden, Ghadafi, Saddam, etc), and then declare war on them 10-15 years later ? I think what "Anonymous" is pointing out is that these wars are started in an unjust/corrupt way, which goes back all the way to the Gulf of Tonkin incident & as recent as the fake Iraq war. Phil don't you care that 58,000 US troops died for no reason in Vietnam and countless more in Iraq all due to government lies ? I am not American, but you can have even lost friends/relatives in these wars, I would be uncontrollably irrate if I was an American. Isn't that what Patriotism is all about, defending your citizens from government lies ?
ReplyDelete" Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism " (Thomas Jefferson)
If other leaders are committing genocide, it's not something we like or agree with obviously, but I don't agree with being the policemen of the world either. President Bush claims to be Christian, but what would Jesus have done ? I doubt he would have bombed and killed people. When George Bush asked Canada to join the Iraq war, our leader told Bush to go away. Canada initially received slack for it, but after the dust settled, it is now clear that Iraq was all based on lies, and the correct decision was made.
I can't say enough good things about the actual PEOPLE in your country. I must say from an outsider perspective though, that your government is seen as the largest war monger around the world, and has lost most of its respect worldwide these past 10 years. It's really sad to see.
Ron Paul predicted every market crash since the 80's, was against false Vietnam war, voted against the fake Iraq war, and I can go on and on.
I wish I was American, so I could vote for Ron Paul.