When faced with the astronomical figures, Gertrude Walker, Supervisor of Elections for St. Lucie County, said she had no idea why turnout was so incredibly high. She was flabbergasted, saying, "We've never seen that here."
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| 141.1% |
Along with this questionable result, Mr. Obama also received over 99% of the vote in numerous districts in Broward County. In various districts in Cleveland, he received 100% of the vote. In Florida, Mr. Obama received over 99% of the vote in precincts where GOP inspectors had been removed.
As for the Presidential race, there's no connection between Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida, right?
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ReplyDeletePlease, feel free to link. I'd be honored, I love Gulag Bound!
DeleteThis data is bogus. The over 100% is based on cards counted. There were two cards per voter. The actual results are posted at the county web site at: http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
DeleteThe statement of cards cast is also there. There was 70% voter turnout. BTW, Roseanne Barr got 145 votes for President there.
This is all bunk.Conspiracy theories popping up everywhere. People voted and now they get what they voted for. As long as the government is handing out checks to 47% of us then nothing will change.
DeleteObama admits voter fraud: http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-admits-2012-election-fraud
Deletepeople are fools if they think this was legitimate! its no wonder we are all treated as such when they're only about half right!
DeleteNone of this matters in the least, THIS COUNTRY IS BROKE AND CAN'T PAY IT'S BILLS.
DeleteIn just a few months the Government will fail and all hell will break out.
Many ballots had two cards - that is two pages per ballot. Turnout was 7% lower than 2008. Stories like this exemplify the right wing bubble where you believe the most nonsensical bs.
DeleteIn every election someone wins and someone loses. That's what makes it an election. When your guy loses, it does not automatically mean that the election was rigged. It means that most of the people did not want your guy. I don't hear any of you questioning Romney's wins in the Red States. I guess only Democrats cheat?
DeletePEOPLE vote, crooks steal, stolen victory
DeleteFrom the website. They had a two page ballot. "NOTE* - TURNOUT PERCENTAGES WILL SHOW OVER 100% DUE TO A TWO PAGE BALLOT. NOT ALL VOTERS VOTED THE SECOND CARD CONTAINING THE AMENDMENTS"
DeleteSome of the commenters here could be hit square in the face with a 2x4 and swear up and down it never happened. The theory used by an earlier poster that there are 'two cards per voter' would mean that the % would be consistent to the amount of voters voting. That means that over 500 'voters' should really be upset cause they didn't get their 2nd card. Some areas did not have that many voting but the % showed something a lot different. Helps to know what one is talking about when making such statements
DeleteObama and his Chicago cronies have done it again. Why can't the Republican Party find a Presidential Candidate who wants to win more than wanting to be seen as a gentleman? If Obama was/is so damn good why are so many of his appointees leaving his administration. Perhaps some of them can no longer stomach the constant deceptions and dirty tricks. What we truly need are some common sense solutions a. 2 terms as a senator or representative b. congressional people lose pension c. congressional people have to have ObamaCare d. congressional people have to abide by all the laws everyone else does-no more exemptions for them e. 1 six year term for President f. balanced budget every year no matter what g. we have billions in Chinese war bonds from WWll-use them to pay down our debt to China h. Japan owes us billions in reparations from WWll-use that to pay down our debt to them i. suspend ALL foreign aid until our deficit is zero and we have a 5 trillion surplus.
DeleteBrilliant idea anonymous... Even though one can explain away the 2x number of votes difference between registered and cast, (ie.,2 cards per vote) I still believe that it was absolutely fixed. The vote aggregation at the top levels was manipulated. The vote count is totally fraudulent. It is statistically impossible to have 0 votes for Romney in over 50 counties in PA. The same sort of thing happened in Ohio. You can't tell me that absolutely no one in those areas can't see through the obuma deceptions and didn't vote against him. Nope. Not going to believe it. Also, the Rasmussen polls showed a distinct advantage for Romney in many areas and the disparity of "vote totals" is simply too far off from this proven reputable polling agency results. And how does every single battleground state - every single one - go for the DEOTC (domestic enemy of the constitution) ??? How? I'm just asking a question here. And please don't try to tell me obuma was a better candidate than Romney. Nothing but lies out of obuma. Romney was a classy and respectful candidate. We need to prosecute this deception or all will be lost in 2014.
DeleteOK this was not a 2 page ballot, it was a 3 page ballot. A card counted is one submission from a voter, that equals one ballot no matter how many pages it is. I vote, I voted in this county and this is just one of the corrupt machines down here. you want real corruption, check out Broward, what a mess!!
DeleteWell just so many registered voters can vote..So how in the hell this many voted??Of course Obama won this too..
Deleteso what? how did this affect the electoral college outcome?
ReplyDeleteI...I honestly don't know if you are kidding or are actually that stupid. Obama leads Romney by less than 100,000 votes in Florida. Fraud could play a huge role in the electoral college
DeleteGet the popular vote in X state and you get that state's electoral college votes.
DeleteI think the first anonymous meant "what does it do to the PRESIDENTIAL outcome". which of course it does nothing. Obama won. Deal.
DeleteIt happened in Fla, Pa, Oh, and Colorado. More to come.
Delete"So what?" You actually said "So What"??? So, you condone cheating, dufus? This also happened in Ohio, which was another close state. The total number of votes in Hamilton County was 109% of the total number of registered voters. Please explain that one, Mr. Brainiac... So, what does that have to do with the Electoral College??? Well, I learned in my 7th grade civics class that number of Electors from those two states would have gone into Romney's column. Duh?
DeletePs. Can u imagine if Romney won. The riots the destruction. That is Fucking sad that your voters are that ignorant to d and threaten that. Thank God conservatives are so classy. All you liberals have is
Deleteracisim, lies and the know how to
Bleed the system because u are too lazy to work hard to cheat lie threaten and abuse the system. Sounds perfect to only raise you idiot in training children to be just like you and that is worthless. U are followers like cows being lead to the slaughter house. Nothing is free ps. A hard day at work any day to feed clothe and house your family. It makes u a good person but unfortunately destroying a nation for freebies, mythical hope, gay marriage and abortion as birth control. U don't see the blood on the hands of your president. All u can see is where he can steal from us to give to your pathetic families. God forbid u instill a work ethic for your libtards in training. But whatever. U deserve it and just sit aside and eat that nasty government cheese and don't care that there is do much more out there cause that US all you strive for. I'm sure your ancestors are so proud.
The election was poisoned nationally... The American people have been scammed again! Obama will never be my President.. I hate the little bastard !
DeleteOf course the first Anonymous condones cheating. His side won.
DeleteEven if this is 100% true, & I highly doubt it is. The republicans forced Bush on the country 2 times in this same sort of way so deal with it.
DeleteYou're an idiot. By all the recounts done by the mainstream media, Al Gore lost every time. Where we the allegations of Republicans cheating anywhere in the election process? Grow up and realize that the political system in this country is turning into a tyrannical system of controlling power. We need to term limit everyone in Washington and get people like Obama, who want to take away our Liberty and property, out of office immediately.
DeleteStill beating "the Bush did it drum"! Find some new excuse as to why OBAMA is incompetent!
DeleteYou are all so sad the whole world wanted Obama Rom just was not a good ticket.Fix the Rep party and try again .Get real programmes and deal with a changing world and cultures get on board the train of life its never going to stop.And your party is stuck in the past god bless from Austin living in europe from ireland
DeleteI don't care what the rest of the world wants. They are not my problem.
DeleteIf Bush had somehow "stolen" Florida in '00, then why was it so solid in his column in '04 that it wasn't even in play?!? And the other little diddy that liberals forget/ignore, had Gore won his home state, Florida wouldn't have even mattered! Gore couldn't even win his home state!
DeleteEverybody needs to drop it and let it be. The election is over what good is all this cursing, name calling doing. We need everybody to stop this madness and let us lives our lives. I plan to keep serving Jesus Christ and pray for my country and the Government. This attitude and madness is sick. Let it go.
DeleteThat is what is wrong now. People just sticking their heads into the sand and "LETTING IT GO". Time to STAND UP for a change!!!
DeleteI agree with Anonymous who wrote "Everybody needs to drop it and let it be. The election is over what good is all this cursing, name calling doing. We need everybody to stop this madness and let us lives our lives. I plan to keep serving Jesus Christ and pray for my country and the Government. This attitude and madness is sick. Let it go." America made their choice.. now they need to live with it.. Whatever happens now is their own fault!!! I just pray that God will help us all!
DeleteTo me, the real issue here is that there is even a possibility of cheating (vote fraud) -- that's what's divisive. We must have a system which does not leave questions and uncertainty of what the final counts are (i.e., whether or not we know what America's choice really was.)
DeleteOur County had a 7 page ballot-- each "SUBMIT" counts a 1 VOTE,,,,no matter how many 'pages' are on the ballot.
DeleteIf it happened in Florida, you know it happened elsewhere. Obama won by FRAUD, but no one has the balls to do anything about it. I am proud to be an American, but I am deeply ashamed of my country.
ReplyDeleteWouldnt that be Romney's job?
DeleteLeroy I think you're right, but as Anonymous said, no one has the balls, I suspect that includes Mr. Romney and Speaker Boehner..
DeleteFL did not get forced on us ny fraud or the supreme court. The Miami Herald conducted their own recount and found that Bush would have won under all credible and acceptable recount methods. Please learn facts as opposed to talking points.
DeleteI agree, why vote it dont matter anymore, pathetic that he is going to get away with this
DeleteYeah Obama definitely won by fraud... his name was Mitt Romney.
DeleteYou are wrong again ! if you had voted for Mitt Romney you would not have to face all the doggerol that is going on in this column ! Obama rigged the polls so that he would win . if not.. How did he get 147% of the votes in florida ?? did everyone use their Guppies to vote , and every onter thhhg thing that has a name in their home ?
DeleteAlan West isn't letting it go. He's fighting with every ounce of energy to prove that St. Lucie cheated! I hope he gets the evidence to blow this wide open.
DeleteFind these stinking cheaters and put them in prison
ReplyDeleteThere aren't enough prisons to house the number who committed voter fraud.
DeleteIndeed there are not enough prisons, but they should forfeit their right to vote and be classified as felons.
DeleteOf course, that doesn't prevent them from voting as somebody else or as a dead person unless the voting lists are purged of dead people before every election and valid, state-issued Picture ID is presented in order to vote.
Also, students must be prohibited from voting in anything other than their permanent residence. A dormitory or college apartment is NOT a permanent residence. Also, there must be a way to cross-check permanent residency, to minimize double voting.
May not be enough prisons but there are plenty of bullets.
DeleteWhat is it with all these Anonymous commenters? How about using a first name or alias so we can tell you apart.
DeleteWhat we need to do people is get congress to pass a constitutional amendment to only allow those who actually pay taxes the right to vote.
DeleteThis would fix this problem. If you don't pay taxes, you have no right to determine how the money is spent.
I bought a can of Coke & I paid a sales tax on it. Does that count?
Delete175,554 registered voters can not equal 247,713 voter cards. This is voter fraud. It's either Acorn, or Obama's Fake Twitter accounts decided to vote. Either way, it's voter Fraud. Just think Acorn, Acorn trained UN Observers, and Liberals.
ReplyDeleteNo. You're confused. In St Lucie Co, as in other Florida counties, there was a two-card ballot. The image captured in the story shows the number of cards cast, not the number of ballots case. The latter is half the former.
DeleteThe captured image is from page two of the "Statement of Votes Case" dated 7 Nov 2012, 1:39AM. (Go to www.slcelections.com.) On page 3 of the same document, the total number of votes is given. It's 123,591, which is 70.4% of registered voters. I repeat, the same document the writer cites explicitly states that the total number of votes cast was 123,591, NOT 247,713.
Continuing on the same document, we see that Romney got 56,125 votes (45.5%) and Obama got 66,246 (53.6%). Minor party and write-in candidates got 1,220 votes.
The alacrity with which the writer, and most commenters, latched onto this bogus story should give you all pause. A few moments' reflection, a more careful reading of the Statement of Votes Cast, or, failing that, a quick phone call to Florida, could have saved you the embarrassment of going off half-cocked. It's a bad thing to be so desperate to believe our elections are fraudulent & our elected leaders lack democratic legitimacy that you'll grasp at, and propagate, inane nonsense such as this.
Do better.
Actually, it was a 3 card ballot. 3 cards, front and back. At least in Hillsborough county it was.
DeleteThat doesnt add up. If the discrepancy is that the ballots are two pages wouldnt the turn out be double the number? Instead it was 141%, not 200%.
DeleteAre we 100% this an official document? What is the source?
ReplyDeleteI believe there was a twitter army - 1 branch whose specific mission was to vote two times and did. Check out "era detergent" at twitter then back trace the individual posters individual posters. You had to be recommended to join. Why do I suspect this? I am lawyer and drug dealers openly talk on phone in "code" using gallons of x kind of paint to stand for amount of drugs. etc. Someone want to help me investigate the 2x BOOM with a fist on it as the sign????
What the fuck are you talking about?
DeleteLMAO at Jimmy's response as I was thinking the same damn thing!
Deletenot my lawyer no more
DeleteNice story but totally bogus. Registered voters 175,554. Cards counted 247,713. Each voter casts 2 cards. St Lucie County turn out will be ±70%. Sorry to burst the bubble. jcmccoumick1
ReplyDeleteThe number of ballot cards would be counted out of the total number of registered voters' cards. This represents that 141% of the total registered voters came out.
DeleteAnd this isn't even counting the provisional ballots, which would raise the total further.
Incorrect Joey C. Because they had never had a two ballot vote before, they did not adjust the math that the computer uses. Typically it would be cards cast divided by registered voters, which is what they used. When there is only one card, this gives you the % turnout (i.e. cards cast 500, registered voters 1000, 500/1000=.50=50%) however, because they didn't update their math, it comes out as if more votes were cast then were registered voters (15158/9553=1.5867=158.67%). Bad math, but no fraud.
DeleteIf that were the case it would have happened all over the state- This morning the Washington Times is reporting more suspicious issues in St Lucie County.
Deleteif Anonymous claim was true the number of cards would be double the number of voter it is not so his little theory is disproved by 3rd grade math.
DeleteLast I checked, 2 counts always equals a number divisible by 2, hmmm, 247,713, not so much. Try again...
DeleteThe St Lucie County election website notes that each card was counted and that since there were two cards in that county, the number appears to be about twice the actual turnout. To the poster claiming the number is not divisible by 2, the county notes that not all people turned in the second card (apparently they didn't care as much about the state questions that were the content of the second card).
DeleteDoesn't fly...Anonymous, by this analysis -what IS the point of having 2 cards then. Even the St. Lucie County 'Democrat' Election Supervisor said she just couldn't understand how it happened. So either she doesn't know what she is talking about or you don't.
DeleteJimmy, I am offended by your language -You could have politely put "What the F*** are you talking about?"
ReplyDeleteDid you go to twitter and search for "era detergent"? Did you look at the bottle to compare it with the actual real ERA detergent site? Did you look closely with an open mind? Did you like on the posters and see what they were tweeting and who they followed?? I did.
Please, for the love of God, do some fucking research you ignorant idiots. The Florida ballots were TWO PAGES LONG, therefore, TWO BALLOT CARDS WERE NEEDED FOR EACH PERSON. Do the quick math: 175,554 people submitting 2 cards each because of the 12 amendments they had to vote on = 175554x2, which equals 351,108 cards that could have been cast. 247713/351108 (number of actual cards cast divided by total possible) = .7055. Move the decimal two points over, and you get only about 70.55% of people who could vote actually voting.
ReplyDeleteOther counties didn't report that way. St. Lucie needs to update or explain the numbers. Can't call people stupid. It's the stupid county that reported it that way.
DeleteI didn't call anyone "stupid", I called them "ignorant". Stupid means "unable to understand". Ignorant means "didn't do the research before spouting off at the mouth about things". So my comment stands.
Delete"ballots in which the three pages have become separated"
DeleteThree, not two. http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/
Yep you said idiot. I'm not buying your math.
DeleteWe Worked the polls in Fla. and you took the totals ballots tabulated and devided by 2 to balance with the number of people casting a ballot.
DeleteHey vyselink... I voted in FL and it was 3 pages. So whose the ignorant one now?
DeleteVyselink, I am offended by your language.
DeleteWe all know there was voter fraud in several swing states votes. In every state that requires Voter ID (like paystub, ss card #, etc).. Obama won all of them.. hmmmmm..... doesnt that make you wonder? why can't a voter be required to have a paycheck stub, SScard and #, or Personal property/real estate tax receipt.. something to prove they are eligible to vote...
Actually, some Florida Counties had 2 cards, some had 3. Citrus county had 2 cards due the the excessively long text of the amendments. District 105 ( City of Crystal River) had 3 because of all the city government stuff. I like many believe this election was tampered with, but in this case, it's the error of St. Lucie county's supervisor of elections incorrectly programming the machine to give accurate turn-out percentages.
DeleteTo all the people upset with the outcome of the election, I will point out here what I've pointed out elsewhere. We the red counties of America are the source of the food shipped to the cities.. Stop sending them food and see how long they can last.
For those that bitch about this being posted Anonymous.. I didn't want to register..
-- NightHawk
http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
ReplyDeleteThe official website, Its true!!!
Read "Vyselink" to get the numbers.
DeleteOk I checked it out. I buy it.
DeleteWhat West is Contesting BTW is not that issue. It is the fact not all ballots were counted. And he is right
Murphy 160,328 votes to West's 157,872 - 318, 200 votes using figures reported by all sources that I found. As of Oct 12, they had 175K registered voters. I also found the same exact document on the SLelection website under Election Results exactly as printed above. Check it out for yourself. You decide.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.slcelections.com/
This says to me that the lefties were so enthusiastic to unseat Allen West, they over did it and are now caught with their pants down!
Trust but verify. Verify it yourself.
Where did you get your numbers? According to pages 21-22 of that report: 52,625 votes (44.25%) for West, 65,896 (55.41) for Murphy. For a total vote count of 118,521 (which is what it says on page 20).
DeleteSo if you take your registered voter number (approx 175000) do the math (118521/175000) you get .6772, or about 67% of registered voters voting. How is that off?
DeleteLawyerG, you are comparing the overall votes for the entire district with registered voters in one county. Apples and oranges.
DeleteThis situation looks fishy, but please check your facts before you add false information, thanks.
Am the only one that sees the fuzzy math?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/9/floridas-tainted-vote/#ixzz2BmQTZw1V
ReplyDeletemath aside there is something strange going on for this election. If you look at B.O's record for the last 4 years and his low approval rating something is very fishy. I am sure there was fraud involved maybe we can take to the U.S. attorney general he'll fix it.
ReplyDeleteOo Really? We are worried about what he would call a fix.
DeleteEric Holder ? the same guy that thought the Black Panthers were just trying to protect voters in PA??? lol! he's the enemy!
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised this article is still up.
ReplyDeleteHow embarrassing.
Thank god I'm not the only one fact checking these articles. I can barely keep up at times. However if anyone knows any liberal blogs with crazy claims, I'd love to fact check them as well. I've actually seen the same thing in a couple other counties where they weren't setup for 2 cards. The reason the lines were so long was that Florida had an unusual amount of provisions on the ballot which made some of the voting books 13 pages long. Top this with reduced early voting days and you have giant lines. What they should have done with reduced voting days was open additional polling stations. Instead they ended up paying a lot of OT to poll workers, which wasn't very fiscally sound.
ReplyDeletecjrec, looking at your posts on this thread, you're so constantly batshit crazy and wrong, I'm starting to think you're a libertarian
DeleteYes because I think that these examples of voter fraud are poorly researched and inaccurate, I must be crazy. Face it, the was probably voter fraud, but these examples are terrible. What more they come from states with Republican Secretaries of State who have the ability to investigate and certify election results. My problem with these articles is that the longer people sitting around pretending they were robbed, the further we fall behind planning to turn around the results for the next elections.
DeleteLook, the Democraps will commit voter fraud ANYWHERE they can, by any means they can. The ACORN vote fraud prosecutions, the James Keefe videos, and many exposès have proven that.
ReplyDeleteBut . . . there appears to be NOTHING legit about these punditpress stories of voter fraud. When you check the cited election results, the vote totals are NOT as claimed in the article. The pictured page with "cards" listed is NOT the vote total for St. Lucie County. The county had 124,031 voters who cast ballots out of 175,554 registered voters - the numbers are listed on page 4 of the linked .pdf document from the county.
There WERE NOT "dozens of Cleveland districts with 100% of the vote" as was claimed in another article. There simply were not - the Cleveland turnout was 66.4%. It's not too hard to imagine that black voting districts in Cleveland voted for Urkel by 95% margins. BTW, that just means that 95% of the votes cast by blacks were for Obama - NOT that 95% of the registered voters in those districts actually voted. That is not voter fraud.
Whoever is writing these stories is a fraud - either some kind of misfit or sociopath, or a partisan hack, or possibly a leftist propaganda artist, who knows? Whatever, they don't have any basis in fact.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as hardcore a conservative as anyone you'll ever meet. I'm sure that there were 1,000's of fraudulent votes cast by "absentee voters." But the election returns don't identify those voters.
They are the other two people of three registered in a one-person home, or a college student registered in two states, or the non-existent siblings, friends or roommates of Democraps who have filled out voter applications for people who do not actually exist.
Dems are using stories such as these to portray conservatives as just a bunch of conspiracy-minded rednecks trying to dispute a lawful election. Don't play into their hands. Wait for the real investigations to root out the real, PROVABLE, voter fraud !
"Dems are using stories such as these to portray conservatives as just a bunch of conspiracy-minded rednecks trying to dispute a lawful election."
DeleteTrue. Looking at the comments here, they have lot of evidence to prove what they say too.
"I'm sure that there were 1,000's of fraudulent votes cast by "absentee voters." But the election returns don't identify those voters.
They are the other two people of three registered in a one-person home, or a college student registered in two states, or the non-existent siblings, friends or roommates of Democraps who have filled out voter applications for people who do not actually exist."
Also true, and annoyingly, proving that is hard.
Proving that a significant number of those calling themselves conservative are reality-challenged is trivial.
In the past, the sheer numbers of such people in "the base" have made it worthwhile to tolerate their idiocy. Now, the numbers of equally reality-challenged people on the Left are high enough to almost counterbalance them, but not high enough to make it as easy to point out to the sane who just want someone competent to run the country.
They're now a liability.
Fraud, fraud, and more fraud
ReplyDeleteObama is a fake, a crook and a cheat has been lying and hidding things about himself and his political goals all along. He would be unable to present a single achievement during his entire first term as president but has a long list of devastating failures and "strange" behaviour patterns. It is beyound comprehension why anyone in America, right in his mind would still vote for him again.
ReplyDeleteThey voted for him because he gives them free stuff. He's Santabama. They could not care any less if he's a fraud as long as they get their free ride. This country is very corrupt. I will continue to vote and try to make a difference, but the message of "hard work" doesn't seem to appeal to far too many free loaders.
DeleteLOOK AT THESE NUMBERS!! -- Make this go VIRAL!!
ReplyDeleteby Seth Alu·
Wisconsin trending republican? LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS!!
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The only reason why I looked at Wisconsin is because of the recent anecdotal evidence with the Scott Walker elections in both 2010 and 2012. It immediately jumped at me that something just did not seem right. In fact, Scott Walker increased his victory margin in his recall election just 5 months ago from his prior election in 2010.
So, to summarize, statewide there is recent anecdotal evidence that WISCONSIN WAS TRENDING MORE REPUBLICAN - NOT LESS.
Approximately 500,000 more voters voted than those that voted 5 months ago. Of those 500,000 new voters only 12.5% voted republican vs the 87.5% new voters voting democrat.
Then I decided to look at a county by county breakdown of votes comparing Scott Walker (R)/Tom Barrett (D) on 5 June 2012 (5 months prior) vs Barrack Obama (D)/Mitt Romney (R) on 6 November 2012 (5 months later).
Below is a breakdown of voting in 3 counties in Wisconsin.
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Marinette County:
Walker got 61.9% of the vote. He got 10,267 votes. Barrett got 37.6% of the vote. He got 6,242 votes.
Romney got 51% of the vote. He got 10,609 votes. Obama got 48% of the vote. He got 9,868 votes.
Romney got about 340 more republican votes. Obama got about 3,620 more democrat votes.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 3,960 MORE VOTERS VOTING THAN THOSE THAT VOTED 5 MONTHS PRIOR. OF THOSE 3,960 NEW VOTERS: 8.6% VOTED REPUBLICAN/91.4% VOTED DEMOCRAT.
(it gets worse...)
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Door County:
Walker got 56.8% of the vote. He got 8,401 votes. Barrett got 42.7% of the vote. He got 6,308 votes.
Romney got 46% of the vote. He got 8,109 votes. Obama got 53% of the vote. He got 9,338 votes.
Romney had a net loss of about 290 republican votes. Obama netted about 3,030 more democrat votes.
THAT'S ABOUT 2,740 MORE VOTERS. ALL 100% OF THOSE 2,740 NEW VOTES WENT DEMOCRAT.
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Marathon County:
Walker got 62.1% of the vote. He got 36,352 votes. Barrett got 37.2% of the vote. He got 21,809 votes.
Romney got 53% of the vote. He got 36,568 votes. Obama got 46% of the vote. He got 32,330 votes.
Romney got about 215 more republican votes. Obama got about 10,520 more democrat votes.
THAT'S ABOUT 10,735 MORE VOTERS. OF THOSE 10,735 NEW VOTERS: ONLY 2% VOTED REPUBLICAN/AND AN ASTOUNDING 98% VOTED DEMOCRAT.
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This is JUST 3 COUNTIES. In every county I looked at, these skewed numbers continued. Some were not as bad. But to me, ALL OF THEM FAILED THE EYEBALL TEST.
Something is just not right. And if it is not right in Wisconsin, then where else is it just not right?
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Footnotes (References/Sources):
My numbers that I used for the Walker recall election are off of Wikipedia. Comparable numbers are on the Huffington Post:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_gubernatorial_recall_election,_2012
- http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/wisconsin-recall-results
For the presidential race I got my numbers from Fox News:
- http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-wisconsin-state-race
You do realize that youth voters usually only turn out for Presidential Elections right? They haven't learned yet that you vote up to 4 times a presidential cycle depending on where you live. (Though normally twice)
DeleteSome will call it sour grapes, but something is definitely ROTTEN.
DeleteI understand the difference in cards vs votes in St Lucie county, but fraud in our country is alive and well, aided and abetted by.... early voting, motor-voter, many little acorns, unions, corrupt media, even the US AG, etc. Can't tell me that the fraud machine hasn't been honing its skills for this week, targeting exactly where and how to steal another one.
How the hell does WI vote for Walker in June, and Tammy Baldwin in Nov? Something stinks to high heaven.
Wisconsin had vans from Illinois that showed up with voters wearing Bear garb just to really be in people's faces. IA, WS, MI, PA and others had fraud by precincts no one had access to or flipping digits in software. South FL had all night voting in Broward and Dade. Florida had early voting for over a week. Democrats wanted it extended. Then you had lines in Dade and Broward so they voted until after midnight and Romney only "lost" Florida by 64,000. Meanwhile the media says nothing.
Deletecjrec, I'm in Wisconsin. There was tremendous pressure on the youth votes and all means of turning out the Democrat votes in these recalls.
DeleteTo all the people saying that it was two pages that accounted for the vote totals, you're totally right. Luckily, as evidence, you can look at all the other counties in Florida that had this problem. What? There were none? And it just happened to be coincidental that it happened in Allen West's district? Oh, well, I'll just say I'm a conservative, insult the DemoRATS at the beginning of my comment, and no one will notice how full of it I am.
ReplyDeleteThis is a TOTAL SHAM! Cards Cast DIVIDED by 2 = Votes Cast. Normal voter turnout is between 60-70% & Florida's turnout was within this range. Take just 001 Lakewood Park: on top you will see that the registered voters are 4815 & "Cards Cast" at 6550. Then go to the "President & Vice President" section & you will see that there were 4815 registered voters and 3273 votes. If you double the 3273, you get 3546 (3550), which is 67.9%.....
ReplyDeleteWhy voter I.D. is needed and here is the proof:
ReplyDeletehttp://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=87980
Just gonna sit back and watch everything burn to the ground. *grabs some popcorn*
ReplyDeleteActually I think I may pop some corn.
DeleteThe election was stolen. Massive fraud and all night voting in Florida (Broward & Dade), Ditto Ohio, Wisc (bussed in thugs), Iowa, PA and other states. Allan West needs to keep fighting win and replace Boehner as speak of the House.
ReplyDeleteThe House can defund anything. Romney won the election and supposedly "lost" FL by 64,000 votes.
We are going to have to go back to paper ballots and hand counts at precincts. If it takes a week, so be it. This early voting and not letting the military vote is BS. Voter ID is no help went thugs control a precinct and the software is easily hacked. The GOP had no clue and better get tough fast.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57522694/voter-registration-fraud-claims-singe-gop/
ReplyDeletehttp://fcir.org/2012/10/03/florida-gop-caught-in-voter-fraud-scandal/
Check this out, and its from a news source that's actually semi-objective news source, not a mouth piece for the left or right. Funny how people like to cherry pick the facts to support their views. Rather we should objectively look at the facts and then assess, even modify our opinions.
I don't know what "cards cast" means, but that's the figure that they are using to calculate turnout. It doesn't translate to VOTES cast. If you look at the report, there were 123,591 total votes cast, and there are 175,554 registered voters. That's a VOTING participation rate of 70%.
ReplyDeleteFolks, knock it off with the conspiracy crap. Obama won fair and square. Deal with it. America deserves what it's going to get
ReplyDeleteThe election has been stolen for years! If you felt cheated, you should have rallied around and for your candidate like I did. Read, educate yourselves, and vote facts and values, not race, religion, and unforeseen and unproven promises. Mittens was never forthright with his plan and was only transparent when it came to how out of touch he was with you all....the 47%. Clearly you are a part of the 47% with your poor grammar and lack of punctuation marks and are ashamed to admit that you've been rejected from your own team for lack of education and class status. Luck your wounds and move on while you attempt to pretend that you nor your ancestors have ever lied, cheated, or stole. Now you want to cry foul!? Get over it or move.
ReplyDeletePS: Bringing a bullet to politics, where you'll win some and lose some, only shows the lack of education, class, and strength you, your ppl, and your party has. If that were protocol, to kill or harm those that got away with Wong doing on election day, there would be none of you left
Damn automatic spelling: lick your wounds and wrong-doing on election day
ReplyDeleteThis is all ridiculous. How about you look at the Florida Sec of State website, and stop with this conspiracy nonsense! The votes for St. Lucie total 123,880. Get a life people! http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/CompareCounties/?ContestId=100000
ReplyDeleteEach voter casts TWO ballots there. Turnout was 123,880 out of 173,304 registered voters or 71%.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.slcelections.com/ - 173,304 voters
ReplyDeletehttp://enight.dos.state.fl.us/CompareByCounty/?ContestId=100000 - 123,880 votes cast
Turnout = 71%
Once again...this is bogus information. The total amount of votes for the St. Lucie County for the Presidential Election is 124,158.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf
So many claim BOGUS information stated, however looking at the links the accuser reference to show BOGUS on the votes. Numbers cannot lie, however they be manipulated by man to be deceitful.According to the web site it shows that there were 175,554 people eligible to vote. On Tuesday the number of individual voting cards cast in the multiple card ballot totaled 249,095. Each voter cast two cards. If this is correct then there would be 124,547 citizens who voted. However, Gertrude Walker states that 71% of the eligible citizens voted, this number then should be 124,643.34. Even a small in-discrepancy in numbers shows manipulation of the numbers. Moreover, Walker continually acknowledges "nothing like this has ever happened, I am not sure what is going on", Well, Ms. Walker you are paid roughly $110,000 a year to know. But hey I'm sure you know exactly what is/has occurring/ed.
ReplyDeleteBefore you buy into the "massive voter fraud" and "141%!!!!!!!" frothing....this is a non-story, and I'll tell you precisely WHY it's a non-story.
ReplyDeleteThe software used in Florida elections counts ballots as "cards." A one-page ballot counts as 1 "card cast" when it's read by the machine, a 2-page ballot counts as 2 "cards cast" when read, et cetera...
So, what's on that second page? Of course, it varies by county/city/precinct, but it's going to be all the local races, tax propositions, and perhaps a few constitutional amendments. If a voter chooses not to vote on those questions, then they don't even have to
turn in that second page of the ballot - which means that, given a two-page ballot, some voters have 2 "cards cast" while others have but 1.
Here comes the math for St. Lucie County:
124,606 voters * 2-page ballot = 249,212 possible "cards cast"
249,212 possible "cards cast" - actual 249,095 "cards cast" = 117 "possible cards not cast"
In other words, 117 voters didn't turn in both pages ("cards") of their ballot.
The 141% shows up because the automated software divides "cards cast" by REGISTERED voters to generate turnout numbers, and it's expecting one "card cast" per voter. So...
249,095 "cards cast" / 175,554 registered voters = 141.89%
It's a flaw in the reporting software, but it sure as heck isn't vote fraud.
What we are really saying there is no way to verify the votes.
ReplyDeleteThe official count http://goo.gl/a2gDi (Obama 66,246, Romney 56,125, Others 899) is 123,270 which is 52,284 short of the 175,554 registered voters in St. Lucie County. That means 70% of the registered voters cast their vote, not 141%. Where's the fraud?
ReplyDeleteThe entire election needs to eb investigated. THe Democrats committed record voter fraud on this one, and its time to call them to the mat.
ReplyDeleteTwitchy is saying this report is wrong http://twitchy.com/2012/11/10/voter-fraud-rumor-of-the-day-141-voter-turnout-in-st-lucie-county-fla/
ReplyDeleteCards cast vs votes cast.
http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
ReplyDeleteOn Page 2:
Registered Voters: 175554.
Cards Cast:247713
Turnout: 141.10%
Vote Break Down (Page 6):
Mitt Romney: 56125 (45.41%).
Barack Obama: 66246 (53.60%).
Thomas R. Stevens: 66 (0.05%).
Gary Johnson: 517 (0.42%).
Total Votes Cast:122954 (Only counting those candidates).
Then when you go to here (http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf) you can see that the amount of total votes was really at 124158.
Obama only got about 38% of the potential votes (counting all registered voters as potential votes).
That number seems perfectly reasonable. To be honest I have no clue what the hell happened to the numbers on the first page, but looking at the overall votes the numbers don't seem fishy.
Did you even look at the source information, people?
This article should either be removed or have a correction posted. Since each voter had TWO CARDS the supposed 140% turnout was really only 70%. Add a correction or remove the piece Aurelius. The longer this stays uncorrected the lest credibility you have.
ReplyDeleteThere was no point in voting.... the same team wins every time....
ReplyDeleteWhat? you think the president makes the decisions?
You poor sheeple. Your "vote" means nothing. Not a thing. It's all in your head.
I boted por Obama cause he da bestis and gib me da free stuff. Him gonna gib me a fone and gas and no doctor bill for me no mo.
ReplyDeleteI don't care about anything else on this page - this made me cry it was so funny.
DeleteThat's cute, I like when racist trash posts things like this
DeleteStraight from the St.Lucie Count election website:
ReplyDeleteNOTE* - TURNOUT PERCENTAGES WILL SHOW OVER 100% DUE TO A TWO PAGE BALLOT. THE TABULATION SYSTEM (GEMS) PROVIDES VOTER TURNOUT AS EQUAL TO THE TOTAL CARDS CAST IN THE ELECTION DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS. ALSO NOTE THAT SOME VOTERS CHOSE NOT TO RETURN BY MAIL THE SECOND CARD CONTAINING THE AMENDMENTS.
So this debunked post is just more ignorant conspiracy mongering by sore losers on the far right. Keep it up, jackasses. It will only hasten your journey to the electoral wilderness.
ReplyDeleteAfter it was announced that he was the winner, I was expecting something like this to play. This is a musical tribute to Dear Leader Obama
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From the source, slcelections.com, home page:
ReplyDeleteSTATEMENT OF VOTES CAST (New)
"Note* - turnout percentages will show over 100% due to a two page ballot. the tabulation system (GEMS) provides voter turnout as equal to the total cards cast in the election divided by the number of registered voters. also note that some voters chose not to return by mail the second card containing the amendments."
Aurelius, why did you choose to post this! You are a smart enough person. You know how to read data and do research. If you truly want to help the conservative cause you wouldn't stoop to the tactics of a liberal. You knew that what you wrote about 141% turnout was a lie. Do I think there was voter fraud in this election? YES! But you and I both know that this was not voter fraud. I won't go into the details bacause many others that commented have already linked to the actual numbers and explained what happened. I am a staunch conservative but I want to fight the good fight in an honest way. Not this way. Please retract this nonsense. Write about why doors were locked in St. Lucie county. Write about why vote counters blocked the view of republican observers. Write about why Allen West went from being ahead by 2000 points to being behind by 2000 votes when the supervisor of elections chose to recount some select ballots. Those are all legitimate things to write about. Don't stoop to the ways of the liberals. It only makes sus look like clowns!
ReplyDeleteThis will not end well.
ReplyDeleteBut it will end.
It sounds to me like St. Lucie County needs to overhaul their Vote Reports to better represent the voter turnout. If the report actually bases it's percentages on the number of pages in the ballot, then the report is useless and misleading. (Unless you want to track how many people are stupid enough not to vote on all the issues.)
ReplyDeleteyour statements are made without access to what actually happened, your argument, intended to discredit the accurate claim of election fraud is made by one aware of the election fraud trying to bring misdirection to the issue. The only stupid person here is you, thinking we will take your WORD as the one we need to decide what is the right thing to do
DeleteAnyone aware of reality knows the election was full of democrat corruption, worse than 2008, the defrauders cry " Fair Election " the aware call it a fraud. We should have a recall election, with paper ballots capable of verification randomly sorting to determine if further sampling is needed. Personally I think the entire political arena is corrupted beyond redemption, and the FBI, Military should declare martial Law while responsible incorruptible government is restored to our country---having watched the change in the last 40 years, as the lawmakers enacted free trade, bribed to do so, as it has exported our factories, and ended small family business sector resulting in lost accrued taxation each year amounting to trillions of lost import tax dollars or accrued taxation american industry is required to pay but importers (SLAVERS) are not, was a treasonous act on the part of american lawmakers, resulting in the current demise of the free world who followed the USA into allowing the resurrection of slavery into our economies, while communist countries against the free world enslave their common people and use free trade as an economic weapon to disrupt and destroy elements of the free world, in unison with the federal reserve who want a one world power of slaves and hirelings, using the governing bodies and predatory laws as their protectorates. Creating a very real return of Nobility in the 250 or so dynasties that makeup the world class mafia, using the monetary systems they control to steal whatever they want from the worlds cash flow, using money, a simple unit of measure as a criminal tool without being investigated for their theft, resulting in a cartel of oligopolies they own or control, with the long term plan to end free nations, and mercenary communist slave nations to protect their strangle hold on the world, by controlling the amount of cash allowed at any one time in any country they chose to interfere with. These people are not too smart and think they are somehow superior to common man, when the absolute opposite is true, Our instrumentation and self educated youth see them for the who and where they are, and are turning to anarchy to remove monarchy from the face of this earth, with modern instrumentation there is no place they can hide from a literate peoples possessing a lot more moxy than themselves, Its unfortunate, because we are all basically the same and are but victims of preliterate ancestors, whose acts resulting in the way we are were done when common people were actually preliterate and unaware of what and how the world class mafia jerked us around, but now we know, and are more than capable of ending their reign on earth
ReplyDeletewith modern mainframe computers like IBM's Watson, instead of a ballot picking out a preselected choice of super delegates, we could have an open ended referendum, scanning in each persons priorities into a computer capable of sorting out what americas citizens want from government, providing direction of government instead of giving self serving lawyers. judges, lobbies and their clients, free to do whatever they want, ignoring our best interest, and human rights
ReplyDeleteunless government embrace modernization through new instrumentation, capable of storing known variables , finding direction using the variables, as opposed to the rule of human opinions made for cash without access to the variables, our government will fall to the growing tide of anarchy among our youth---we will not stand idle while our nation under occupation by criminality, abuse our rights and denature the earth, possessed by the demons of ignorance
ReplyDeleteVotes in St. Lucie County for one of the presidential candidates was just over 70 percent of total registered voters, with 44.4% of the county’s population voting.
ReplyDeleteVoter turnout dropped off down ticket, as it typical in most elections nationwide, ranging from 70.2% for President, to 67.8% for U.S. Senator, 67.6% for U.S. Representative, 66.6% for state senator, 66.6% for county clerk, and 54.2% divided between three state representative races. The article above provides a link to election results clearly marked "unofficial", yet characterizes them as "official". While the results don't vary much between the unofficial and final official results, this mischaracterization is one of several clues to the article's highly flawed conclusions.
The article also shows no understanding of how “cards” are counted in St. Lucie County when there an election ballot contains more than one “card”. In this election, the ballot contained two cards; doubling the number of presidential votes or halving the number of cards results in approximately the same number, providing a very nearly approximate check-and-balance.
The results below are accurate and from the official St. Lucie County election results. There is no basis in fact of voter fraud in St. Lucie County -- but there is clear basis in fact of highly distorted reporting in the article above.
2) Total population of St. Lucie County (2010 Census): 277,789
SOURCE: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12/12111.html
3) Total number of registered voters, St. Lucie County: 175,554 (63.2% of the population)
Total number of votes for President was 123,301 (70.2% of registered voters), including 65,869 (53.42%) for Obama and 56,202 (45.58%) for Romney.
Total number of votes for U.S. Senator was 119,055 (67.8% of registered voters), including 70,179 (58.95%) for the Democrat and 45,989 (38.63%) for the Republican.
Total number of votes for U.S. Representative was 118,649 (67.6% of registered voters), including 65,567 (55.26%) for the Democrat and 52,672 (44.39%) for the Republican.
Total number of votes for State Senator was 33,445+83,501= 116,946 (66.6% of registered voters), including 59,728 (51.1%) for the Democrats and 57,218 (48.9%) for the Republicans.
Total number of votes for Clerk of Circuit Court was 115,916 (66.0% of registered voters), including 63,942 for the Democrat (55.16%) and 51,974 for the Republican (44.84%).
Total number of votes for State Representative, divided between three races, was 1,925+27,423+65,715=95,063 (54.2% of registered voters).
SOURCE: http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/OFficial_Results/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf
4) This was a two-card ballot. Each card is counted separately. Reporting is a local tradition, and is reported as a percentage of total registered voters. Had this been a one-card ballot, total cards would have been approximately the same as the number of presidential votes. Had this been a three-card ballot, the percentages would have been approximately triple the number of presidential votes. In actuality, as a two-card ballot, total cards were very close to exactly double the number of presidential votes.
Total number of “cards” cast was 247,383. Divided in half leaves 123,691.5 voters, or very close to double the 123,301 number of presidential votes. And, if every presidential voter had cast two cards, there would have been 246,602 “cards” cast, very close to the 247,383 “cards” cast. The negligible discrepancies between these numbers are likely the result of a negligible number of voters only returning one of the two cards, a negligible number of voters not entering a vote for president, a negligible number of votes or cards being negated by voting officials, or similar negligible effects.
SOURCE FOR DATA: http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/OFficial_Results/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf
Okay, let's say the two-card theory is correct. Then if there were 123,750 votes cast, as reported by the Florida State Division of Elections here: http://enight.elections.myflorida.com/CountyReportingStatus/ then the maximum number of cards that could have been cast would have been 123,750 x 2 = 247,500.
ReplyDeleteBut at http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf it lists the total number of cards at 249,095. Thus, there were apparently more cards cast than 2 cards per voter.
The way I look at it is, if there's anything about the election results coming from a particular precinct, county, or other division, then the whole election result for that division is hinky!